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		<title>By: c g isa</title>
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		<dc:creator>c g isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Randy Sizemore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Sizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Randy Sizemore...&lt;/strong&gt;

I really do like this place....</description>
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<p>I really do like this place&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: diego sevilla&#8217;s weblog &#187; Una segunda mirada a WP-Morph</title>
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		<dc:creator>diego sevilla&#8217;s weblog &#187; Una segunda mirada a WP-Morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 11:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lla    Pues nada, haciendo una búsqueda por Google me encuentro, aparte de la discusión en BloggingPro y de que alguien también lo comentó en los forums de Wor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The  ePiC rAmblInGs of JustIsengard &#187; Added WP-Morph</title>
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		<dc:creator>The  ePiC rAmblInGs of JustIsengard &#187; Added WP-Morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Archer (or Puken Luken as the link to his site states on the right) I have just installed WP-Morph. Forcing registration to comment obviously did not work.  I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Archer (or Puken Luken as the link to his site states on the right) I have just installed WP-Morph. Forcing registration to comment obviously did not work.  I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough Diego. Comment spam has caused everyone inconvenience and with almost any implementation of a filtered device, some innocent users will get caught in the filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough Diego. Comment spam has caused everyone inconvenience and with almost any implementation of a filtered device, some innocent users will get caught in the filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis de Bernardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis de Bernardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diego: I thought the wp-hashcash generated the key on the client...

John: Personally, I wouldn&#039;t care much about users with js disabled. To start with, I&#039;ll take the bet most of them are in fact bots. And for the very few real users that remain, you can always put a noscript tag in your page to notify them js is required to use the comment form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diego: I thought the wp-hashcash generated the key on the client&#8230;</p>
<p>John: Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t care much about users with js disabled. To start with, I&#8217;ll take the bet most of them are in fact bots. And for the very few real users that remain, you can always put a noscript tag in your page to notify them js is required to use the comment form.</p>
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		<title>By: diego sevilla&#8217;s weblog &#187; WP-Morph en Blgging-Pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>diego sevilla&#8217;s weblog &#187; WP-Morph en Blgging-Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] evilla @ 14:58  	&#8212; 	In English	 	 	 		Pues parece que ha habido también discusión en BloggingPro. La gente pregunta las dos cuestiones principales:   En  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diego Sevilla</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2005/03/15/wordpress-plugin-wp-morph-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3897</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego Sevilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Yeah, that is a problem with the plugin, I must admit it... I thought about it, but there are really many things that depend on JavaScript: look at how many sidebars implement it without it... So I decided that I could pay this inconvenience to stop spammers...

Best regards,
diego</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Yeah, that is a problem with the plugin, I must admit it&#8230; I thought about it, but there are really many things that depend on JavaScript: look at how many sidebars implement it without it&#8230; So I decided that I could pay this inconvenience to stop spammers&#8230;</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
diego</p>
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		<title>By: Diego Sevilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego Sevilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Denis:

Now, this is a good question I was expecting.

There are two main differences:

1. Wp-hashcash doesn&#039;t have any &quot;hidden&quot; value. By hidden I mean a value that is *only* known by the server. This value is essential, and is used in pre- and post-processing. Spammers cannot know this value, and cannot generate correct results unless they execute the JavaScript. In other words, WP-Hashcash gives the spammers all the info they need to produce a fake response.

2. In WP-Morph the JavaScript code *has to* be executed. WP-Hashcash claims that in his case, the JavaScript code that calculates the md5 *must* be executed by the client. But this is false: any spammer with an &quot;md5&quot; function in his pocket can do the calculus without executing any JavaScript in the page, then generating the fake response form. In fact, reading the comments to the WP-Hashcash blog entry, I see that any stupid pimprick has taken the time to study the code and release this code that fools the plugin. In WP-Morph, the code is generated ad-hoc for the page, it must be executed to obtain the result (because the code changes every time), and the result must be returned.

Hope this clarifies the differences.

Best reards,
diego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Denis:</p>
<p>Now, this is a good question I was expecting.</p>
<p>There are two main differences:</p>
<p>1. Wp-hashcash doesn&#8217;t have any &#8220;hidden&#8221; value. By hidden I mean a value that is *only* known by the server. This value is essential, and is used in pre- and post-processing. Spammers cannot know this value, and cannot generate correct results unless they execute the JavaScript. In other words, WP-Hashcash gives the spammers all the info they need to produce a fake response.</p>
<p>2. In WP-Morph the JavaScript code *has to* be executed. WP-Hashcash claims that in his case, the JavaScript code that calculates the md5 *must* be executed by the client. But this is false: any spammer with an &#8220;md5&#8243; function in his pocket can do the calculus without executing any JavaScript in the page, then generating the fake response form. In fact, reading the comments to the WP-Hashcash blog entry, I see that any stupid pimprick has taken the time to study the code and release this code that fools the plugin. In WP-Morph, the code is generated ad-hoc for the page, it must be executed to obtain the result (because the code changes every time), and the result must be returned.</p>
<p>Hope this clarifies the differences.</p>
<p>Best reards,<br />
diego.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp&quot;&gt;10-11% &lt;/a&gt; of users who have JavaScript disabled in their browsers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp">10-11% </a> of users who have JavaScript disabled in their browsers?</p>
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