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		<title>By: Simos</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2007/07/13/sponsored-themes-this-aint-black-and-white/#comment-209193</link>
		<dc:creator>Simos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool!</description>
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		<title>By: Innovablog &#62; Wordpress lance MarketPlace pour monétiser ses thèmes</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2007/07/13/sponsored-themes-this-aint-black-and-white/#comment-209171</link>
		<dc:creator>Innovablog &#62; Wordpress lance MarketPlace pour monétiser ses thèmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] La croisade face aux thèmes sponsorisés (sponsored themes) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] La croisade face aux thèmes sponsorisés (sponsored themes) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Do Sponsored Wordpress Themes Harm Search Engine Rankings in Google?</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2007/07/13/sponsored-themes-this-aint-black-and-white/#comment-207372</link>
		<dc:creator>Do Sponsored Wordpress Themes Harm Search Engine Rankings in Google?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] important thing to remember is to constantly be open-minded. Do not fear all sponsored themes, but at the same time, do not trust them blindly either. No matter whether the theme is sponsored [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] important thing to remember is to constantly be open-minded. Do not fear all sponsored themes, but at the same time, do not trust them blindly either. No matter whether the theme is sponsored [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daria Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daria Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for saying what I've been feeling about this whole situation. Not all sponsored themes are crap and not all sponsored theme designers are spammers. I really wish that the painting with the broad brush strokes would stop and that for a moment people would think with their heads and not with their mouths.

Great post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for saying what I&#8217;ve been feeling about this whole situation. Not all sponsored themes are crap and not all sponsored theme designers are spammers. I really wish that the painting with the broad brush strokes would stop and that for a moment people would think with their heads and not with their mouths.</p>
<p>Great post <img src='http://www.bloggingpro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lorelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last, some common sense. Thank you.

Until the definition of what "sponsored" means is clearly established, grouping all Themes together with more than one link to the author is a little out of control. 

Still, the discussion was put before the public for many months before a decision was made. Now the policy is being written, which will include the definitions, and WordPress users will continue to come first for protection from dozens of links, ad links, javascripts which influence pagerank and advertising revenue, and other more "nasty" things that have appeared in WordPress Themes.

GPL WordPress Themes are great portfolio examples of what a designer can do, so they should offer the designer a way to promote their wares. I know several web designers who call themselves that on their business cards because they got exposure through WordPress Themes. That's wonderful.

As for the reference "high ground", while there are a thousand ways of titling that post, I'm rather intrigued with the way so many have put "so much" on the words. For me, it meant that Weblog Tools Collection had made a decision in line with their standards and moral value. I have no problem with that and live the "high ground" on my blog daily, to that definition. 

It takes a lot of courage to stand up for your rights. Not arrogance, self-righteousness, ego, or any of the other words I've seen used. Walking the high ground keeps you out of the dangers such as flash flood waters and safe on the path of your life - that's what I was raised with in Native American Indian country.  We need more bloggers and everyone taking the high ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last, some common sense. Thank you.</p>
<p>Until the definition of what &#8220;sponsored&#8221; means is clearly established, grouping all Themes together with more than one link to the author is a little out of control. </p>
<p>Still, the discussion was put before the public for many months before a decision was made. Now the policy is being written, which will include the definitions, and WordPress users will continue to come first for protection from dozens of links, ad links, javascripts which influence pagerank and advertising revenue, and other more &#8220;nasty&#8221; things that have appeared in WordPress Themes.</p>
<p>GPL WordPress Themes are great portfolio examples of what a designer can do, so they should offer the designer a way to promote their wares. I know several web designers who call themselves that on their business cards because they got exposure through WordPress Themes. That&#8217;s wonderful.</p>
<p>As for the reference &#8220;high ground&#8221;, while there are a thousand ways of titling that post, I&#8217;m rather intrigued with the way so many have put &#8220;so much&#8221; on the words. For me, it meant that Weblog Tools Collection had made a decision in line with their standards and moral value. I have no problem with that and live the &#8220;high ground&#8221; on my blog daily, to that definition. </p>
<p>It takes a lot of courage to stand up for your rights. Not arrogance, self-righteousness, ego, or any of the other words I&#8217;ve seen used. Walking the high ground keeps you out of the dangers such as flash flood waters and safe on the path of your life - that&#8217;s what I was raised with in Native American Indian country.  We need more bloggers and everyone taking the high ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2007/07/13/sponsored-themes-this-aint-black-and-white/#comment-197368</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bret

Who is to blame Matt for the "elitist" attitude? 

We and only we. If I gave you more than necessary importance, wouldn't it be natural for you to have an exulted superiority complex? Besides Matt is a young achiever, most of us can't do what he's done in a lifetime. So, it's expected. 

Tell me how many of us dare to say things like it is. I'm not talking about Shoemoney or BloggingPro, I'm talking about our regular theme contributors. Most users are shit scared of him, leave a few exceptions.

I'm not justifying his "elitist" attitude, however we should also learn to command respect. You must have heard this one: No one can insult you without your own permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bret</p>
<p>Who is to blame Matt for the &#8220;elitist&#8221; attitude? </p>
<p>We and only we. If I gave you more than necessary importance, wouldn&#8217;t it be natural for you to have an exulted superiority complex? Besides Matt is a young achiever, most of us can&#8217;t do what he&#8217;s done in a lifetime. So, it&#8217;s expected. </p>
<p>Tell me how many of us dare to say things like it is. I&#8217;m not talking about Shoemoney or BloggingPro, I&#8217;m talking about our regular theme contributors. Most users are shit scared of him, leave a few exceptions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not justifying his &#8220;elitist&#8221; attitude, however we should also learn to command respect. You must have heard this one: No one can insult you without your own permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's almost like the CD's stuck in a loop, and there is only one line to hear over and over again, "Sponsored themes, blah blah blah.............."

When you're in a spot, you can say "But sponsored themes, blah blah blah". It's become more of a defense mechanism for being evasive about all other issues and cover-up loopholes within the system.

It will be nice to see all frustration out though once and for all instead of continuing with the saga month after month. 

What I propose is this: 

Good designers (sponsored and non-sponsored both) should unite and start their own site, while they can continue to upload themes on all other theme distribution sites. It's the quality of the theme that is important, footers are secondary. Users do not care as much about footers as much as they care about an easily customizable theme of their choice for which they could get support, and while we continue our debate, our users are smarter not to participate in this petty fight and know well how to customize their own footers too! 

Some believe that a site with the highest traffic is the only way to go. Temporarily yes, but not necessarily in the long run. I see it this way, traffic is not built in a day and it's we who collectively make a site big or small.  

@ Jacob,

I seriously doubt if Matt will let go of such a huge traffic so easily, I'm sure he would find an ethical way out to let themes back in (or is it already done yet:)) Let's not underestimate our 23 year old genius! He sure knows how to get things done his way, and thanks to our whole big army of ass-kissers who make the task rather easy!

Regardless, we hope to submit our 90+ themes on your site soon. Let's see how it goes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s almost like the CD&#8217;s stuck in a loop, and there is only one line to hear over and over again, &#8220;Sponsored themes, blah blah blah&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re in a spot, you can say &#8220;But sponsored themes, blah blah blah&#8221;. It&#8217;s become more of a defense mechanism for being evasive about all other issues and cover-up loopholes within the system.</p>
<p>It will be nice to see all frustration out though once and for all instead of continuing with the saga month after month. </p>
<p>What I propose is this: </p>
<p>Good designers (sponsored and non-sponsored both) should unite and start their own site, while they can continue to upload themes on all other theme distribution sites. It&#8217;s the quality of the theme that is important, footers are secondary. Users do not care as much about footers as much as they care about an easily customizable theme of their choice for which they could get support, and while we continue our debate, our users are smarter not to participate in this petty fight and know well how to customize their own footers too! </p>
<p>Some believe that a site with the highest traffic is the only way to go. Temporarily yes, but not necessarily in the long run. I see it this way, traffic is not built in a day and it&#8217;s we who collectively make a site big or small.  </p>
<p>@ Jacob,</p>
<p>I seriously doubt if Matt will let go of such a huge traffic so easily, I&#8217;m sure he would find an ethical way out to let themes back in (or is it already done yet:)) Let&#8217;s not underestimate our 23 year old genius! He sure knows how to get things done his way, and thanks to our whole big army of ass-kissers who make the task rather easy!</p>
<p>Regardless, we hope to submit our 90+ themes on your site soon. Let&#8217;s see how it goes!</p>
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		<title>By: Kolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often look for new themes to come 'cause have several blogs on different topics, some themes are nice and have only one link in the footer, but what makes the authors of other themes to put there link everywhere? Recently I spent half an hour to remove 'em all. I don't like such practice as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often look for new themes to come &#8217;cause have several blogs on different topics, some themes are nice and have only one link in the footer, but what makes the authors of other themes to put there link everywhere? Recently I spent half an hour to remove &#8216;em all. I don&#8217;t like such practice as well</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you make a good point about the "elitist" attitude towards sponsored themes. To a certain extent it feels like an extension of those bloggers that have disdain for blogs with ads. Everyone has a right to not place ads on their site, but to imply that someone is less of a blogger because they accept advertisement is completely ridiculous.

Personally, I don't like hidden difficult to remove links in a free theme, but have nothing against someone that releases a theme with clearly visible easy to remove links. Matter of fact, to release a theme and clearly state that it is made free due to the contributions of these sponsors (then insert the links) is completely fair in my opinion (I elaborated on that point over at my blog this morning).

All in all I appreciated hearing your view on this matter and am impressed with what I have read on this debate thus far.  Everyone has been pretty professional regardless of their position.  That approach leads to a much better debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make a good point about the &#8220;elitist&#8221; attitude towards sponsored themes. To a certain extent it feels like an extension of those bloggers that have disdain for blogs with ads. Everyone has a right to not place ads on their site, but to imply that someone is less of a blogger because they accept advertisement is completely ridiculous.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t like hidden difficult to remove links in a free theme, but have nothing against someone that releases a theme with clearly visible easy to remove links. Matter of fact, to release a theme and clearly state that it is made free due to the contributions of these sponsors (then insert the links) is completely fair in my opinion (I elaborated on that point over at my blog this morning).</p>
<p>All in all I appreciated hearing your view on this matter and am impressed with what I have read on this debate thus far.  Everyone has been pretty professional regardless of their position.  That approach leads to a much better debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm 100% with you on everything you say here, Jacob. It's very well thought out and highlights why this "blanket policy" being adopted is just wrong. Good themes by top designers are not cheap, nor is the time spent supporting users post-release. Matt himself has conceded the point in his comment above. It's like burning a whole crop just because there are some weeds. Your suggested compromises are both ethical and fair. At Performancing, we will continue with this model. To deny the WP community the chance to use free, quality themes by top designers would be wrong. I therefore join you in recommending these policies- dealing with the spam - and giving users the ultimate choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% with you on everything you say here, Jacob. It&#8217;s very well thought out and highlights why this &#8220;blanket policy&#8221; being adopted is just wrong. Good themes by top designers are not cheap, nor is the time spent supporting users post-release. Matt himself has conceded the point in his comment above. It&#8217;s like burning a whole crop just because there are some weeds. Your suggested compromises are both ethical and fair. At Performancing, we will continue with this model. To deny the WP community the chance to use free, quality themes by top designers would be wrong. I therefore join you in recommending these policies- dealing with the spam - and giving users the ultimate choice.</p>
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