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	<title>Comments on: WordPress 2.5 Release Day Again&#8230;</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vance</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2008/03/17/wordpress-25-release-day-again/#comment-211744</link>
		<dc:creator>vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they have the whole March to release. The original release date was before April so my guess is they thought they can release it earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they have the whole March to release. The original release date was before April so my guess is they thought they can release it earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: honest ape</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2008/03/17/wordpress-25-release-day-again/#comment-211731</link>
		<dc:creator>honest ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good rule in business is this: never promise what you can't deliver. If you promise a release on a certain date and you're late, people give you hell. If you think hard and promise a release far further down the line that you expect, but come in early? Then people praise the shit out of you.

I know it's free software, but it still sucks to get people's hopes up for a release then completely blow it off. 

I second the idea of not having release dates. Give people estimates...Say sometime in March or such, rather than give a date. Then you don't look bad and people have no reason to complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good rule in business is this: never promise what you can&#8217;t deliver. If you promise a release on a certain date and you&#8217;re late, people give you hell. If you think hard and promise a release far further down the line that you expect, but come in early? Then people praise the shit out of you.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s free software, but it still sucks to get people&#8217;s hopes up for a release then completely blow it off. </p>
<p>I second the idea of not having release dates. Give people estimates&#8230;Say sometime in March or such, rather than give a date. Then you don&#8217;t look bad and people have no reason to complain.</p>
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		<title>By: JamieO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scheduled releases work best when you have a list of requirements / deliverables which can be properly prioritized, estimated and tested. I have yet to see an open-source project which has stable commitment from sufficient resources to make that approach viable. However the alternative "when its' done" mantra doesn't exactly fill me with optomism either.

I installed the 2.5 beta to start developing a recent &lt;a href="http://www.oastler.ca/ideas/20080306_wordpress-category-template-plugin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;category template enhancement plugin idea&lt;/a&gt; I had. From my brief exposure to it thus far, I'd say that the beta has a long way to go to be a release cadidate. I find the new presentation more back-asswards than it was with 2.3 overall - which itself wasn't always the most logical approach to be fair. I'm sure those involved are doing the best that they can, and I'm not trying to give them grief, but as example:

The category selection in the write post window moved from the sidebar to below the post window. It went from being something you would see and select before writing to an afterthought where even tags are prioritized higher in the presentation.
The save / publish buttons, which were positioned well in context of standard usability practices - at the bottom of your screen since they are the last item you would interact with - are now moved over the sidebar with the delete button in VERY CLOSE proximity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scheduled releases work best when you have a list of requirements / deliverables which can be properly prioritized, estimated and tested. I have yet to see an open-source project which has stable commitment from sufficient resources to make that approach viable. However the alternative &#8220;when its&#8217; done&#8221; mantra doesn&#8217;t exactly fill me with optomism either.</p>
<p>I installed the 2.5 beta to start developing a recent <a href="http://www.oastler.ca/ideas/20080306_wordpress-category-template-plugin/" rel="nofollow">category template enhancement plugin idea</a> I had. From my brief exposure to it thus far, I&#8217;d say that the beta has a long way to go to be a release cadidate. I find the new presentation more back-asswards than it was with 2.3 overall - which itself wasn&#8217;t always the most logical approach to be fair. I&#8217;m sure those involved are doing the best that they can, and I&#8217;m not trying to give them grief, but as example:</p>
<p>The category selection in the write post window moved from the sidebar to below the post window. It went from being something you would see and select before writing to an afterthought where even tags are prioritized higher in the presentation.<br />
The save / publish buttons, which were positioned well in context of standard usability practices - at the bottom of your screen since they are the last item you would interact with - are now moved over the sidebar with the delete button in VERY CLOSE proximity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using wp 2.5 beta and love it so far.  improved and streamlined compared to wp 2.3 

im also using the fluency wordpress admin theme... 

cant wait for the latest release</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using wp 2.5 beta and love it so far.  improved and streamlined compared to wp 2.3 </p>
<p>im also using the fluency wordpress admin theme&#8230; </p>
<p>cant wait for the latest release</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron B. Hockley</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggingpro.com/archives/2008/03/17/wordpress-25-release-day-again/#comment-211721</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron B. Hockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since they announced their quarterly release schedule, I've advocated that WP should be released when it's ready instead of based on an arbitrary calendar date.  Now that they've missed their target as many times as they've made it, perhaps they'll just go with the smarter approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since they announced their quarterly release schedule, I&#8217;ve advocated that WP should be released when it&#8217;s ready instead of based on an arbitrary calendar date.  Now that they&#8217;ve missed their target as many times as they&#8217;ve made it, perhaps they&#8217;ll just go with the smarter approach.</p>
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